mixdown with one file per take, labelled with takenames

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mixdown with one file per take, labelled with takenames

Postby klaukholm » Sat Oct 27, 2012 21:47

It would be insanely useful to make a one click mixdown to mp3 and 44/16 where all takes become separate files named according to take names (clip names).
This would simplify the process of sending material to artists for edit decisions

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Re: mixdown with one file per take, labelled with takenames

Postby a.stinson » Mon Oct 29, 2012 01:52

+1 good idea. this would be very handy!

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Postby Graemme » Mon Oct 29, 2012 04:58

Totally agree and same functions should also exist in the Render window. This has been suggested for *years* and is really mandatory now in what has become a file-based world.

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Re: mixdown with one file per take, labelled with takenames

Postby fl » Tue Nov 20, 2012 00:55

Is there anything on the horizon in version 8 that suggests a different method of accessing Album Publishing?

Currently, having to go through the CD/SACD Tab to mark all the file boundaries with CD Markers, and enter all the CD Text to be used as meta-data Tags as CD Text - it's cumbersome. Add to that the 99 track restriction of CDs vs. the possibility of needing hundreds of files output from a Publishing operation, it gets even more tedious having to create several "fake" Disc images, just to be able to Publish a large number of individual files.

As things stand, Album Publishing, great as it is, is a kludge pasted on top of the existing CD Image preparation function, when it really needs to be in its own tab, maybe even with its own type of File Start and File End markers.

Anything like this on the horizon? For single files, a welcome function would be to allow a right click (or other quick key combo) on a clip in the timeline, to be output as a file in one of the supported formats available in Publishing, but perhaps it should be part of a larger revision so that any number of files can be created from any number of clips.
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Re: mixdown with one file per take, labelled with takenames

Postby Paulo M » Wed Nov 21, 2012 14:29

Ahaha,

I´ve been asking for this since AP was released. The idea was to have the same features as in AP but without the need to create a "fake CD" just to have access to the same funtionalities, which basically is to be able to export in diferent formats in one go. It should be available in Render and Media Management.
The detail in Render is that when you render something, the rendered file replaces the original in the timeline(until you hit Undo that is...). So if rendering to several formats, which file format would stay in the timeline after the process has ended. Maybe the last or an option not to place in the timeline, as all the user wants is probably to export multi format to specific folders.

Didn´t see any of this in V8, maybe it´s hidden somewhere... :)
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Re: mixdown with one file per take, labelled with takenames

Postby Sylvain94 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 17:44

What will also be great is to be able to mixdown files by steem. For example, you have 2 steem (2 stereo bus for example), you need to render your files after the mixdown to obtain 2 stereo files. With big projects, it's quite long.

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Re: mixdown with one file per take, labelled with takenames

Postby DJS » Sun Jun 09, 2013 15:51

Yeah, this function is so elegant in Wavelab, just add named markers, then batch render to separate WAV's all named as per the marker names. PMX needs this badly.
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Re: mixdown with one file per take, labelled with takenames

Postby Perfect Record » Mon Jun 10, 2013 06:20

DJS wrote:Yeah, this function is so elegant in Wavelab, just add named markers, then batch render to separate WAV's all named as per the marker names. PMX needs this badly.


FWIW, as long as you've entered and named your markers, you may as well use the create CD from markers feature.

Yes, I agree that it would be great to be able to create MP3's (I'd prefer AAC files) directly but we've been burning CD's, then ripping them in iTunes, then sending the iTunes files to clients. That way they can burn CD's for audition.

In the scenario that Klaukholm proposes, I assume you're looking for a solution which creates one MP3 for every clip in a project. What were you thinking about those situations where there is more than one take per clip? If the artists are doing well, we usually keep the recording going over many takes.

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Re: mixdown with one file per take, labelled with takenames

Postby Paulo M » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:33

An elegant solution IMHO is to add multi format file generation options to the Mixdown, Render and Media Management Export processes.

Example:

You´re about to perform a Mixdown or a Render. You set your selection ins and outs by using Mark in and Out or Selection
Next to the field where you choose your primary file format, we have a button with a + symbol. That means "Add file format"
For every press of the + button a drop down menu opens and you can choose another format.
If for example you choosed Wav as your primary format and then have choosen AAC and FLAC as additional formats, when the Mixdown/Render/Export is performed, the system in the background generates the AAC and FLAC formats from the primary mixdown file format and places them at a user choosen destination folder.

All this multi format file generation is already implemented in Pyramix in the Album Publishing. They just need to be ported to other parts of the software for the majority of work that needs multi file format generation without the use of CD creation via the CD tab menu.

For names of the resultant files, I think an integration with labelled markers in the timeline would be great. I know there are improvements on this in the 8.1 beta versions, but I´ve not been able to try it yet, so I won´t elaborate too much on this issue.
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Re: mixdown with one file per take, labelled with takenames

Postby klaukholm » Wed Jun 12, 2013 07:30

Perfect Record wrote:
DJS wrote:Yeah, this function is so elegant in Wavelab, just add named markers, then batch render to separate WAV's all named as per the marker names. PMX needs this badly.


FWIW, as long as you've entered and named your markers, you may as well use the create CD from markers feature.

Yes, I agree that it would be great to be able to create MP3's (I'd prefer AAC files) directly but we've been burning CD's, then ripping them in iTunes, then sending the iTunes files to clients. That way they can burn CD's for audition.

In the scenario that Klaukholm proposes, I assume you're looking for a solution which creates one MP3 for every clip in a project. What were you thinking about those situations where there is more than one take per clip? If the artists are doing well, we usually keep the recording going over many takes.


Yes, one clip per take.
As for your sceniario, if they implement my other request which is new take without stopping (sampleaccurate split) you will get to keep the machine running for your artist AND get unique take names for everything AND instant one click mixdown to send them in a for review!

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Re: mixdown with one file per take, labelled with takenames

Postby Perfect Record » Wed Jun 12, 2013 08:37

klaukholm wrote:Yes, one clip per take.
As for your sceniario, if they implement my other request which is new take without stopping (sampleaccurate split) you will get to keep the machine running for your artist AND get unique take names for everything AND instant one click mixdown to send them in a for review!


Well Mark W and others have said that this feature works just fine in Boom Recorder. Having never worked with an app which can make a quick split like that, I can say without reservation that I'd welcome it in Pyramix.

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Re: mixdown with one file per take, labelled with takenames

Postby fl » Wed Jun 12, 2013 14:15

With the promised feature in version 8.1 of a "pre-record" function, where the 60 seconds before you actually press the record button is kept in a buffer and "pre-pended" to the file when it gets made eventually, I wonder if, in addition to having an instant file split function, you could also have some overlap, so that the old file continues for ten seconds after you hit the "Split" button, and the new file contains the ten seconds before? Having a little buffer like that would certainly reduce the flow of stomach acid during tense sessions and concert recordings.
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Re: mixdown with one file per take, labelled with takenames

Postby mpdonahue » Wed Jun 12, 2013 14:43

Preston,
Funny enough, Sonic HD split files on the fly due to the 2gb limit at the time. Sequoia has done it since v7 (2002 or so).
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