Mixer in Record path

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Mixer in Record path

Postby Silas » Fri Jan 17, 2003 14:59

Hi all,

Basic question but I have been unable to test this myself. Does anyone know for sure if you use a "record" mixer config. do fader moves get "written to disk"? So if we took a fader controller out on live sessions and were riding the faders would this actually change the gain of the media on its way in?
I guess I'm confused about the distinction between a record config. and a mix config...

Thanks,
Silas

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Postby Bernhard Guettler » Fri Jan 17, 2003 18:29

Hi Silas,

The signal is definitely recorded pre mixer, you only record the input signal, fader movements only affect the (monitor-)mix

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Postby tibor » Fri Jan 17, 2003 19:35

Is that true for effects as well?
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Postby benoit » Fri Jan 17, 2003 19:45

...yes.

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Postby 7rojo7 » Fri Jan 24, 2003 15:02

As I have understood, the mixer is completely configurable. This should mean that you could make a bank of faders with ins from your inputs and assign their outputs to busses and the busses to disk tracks, thus giving you a fader for level to disk, you could turn off the automation on these channels. I'm not sure what kind of delay you'd be seeing but you could make a cue mix (pre or post) from these faders and not the "monitor" tracks.
I've only seen pmx once and this was the feature that impressed me most, the mixer.
I'm not sure how changing the level to disk after the converter would effect the resolution, if it's to follow a soloist in jazz or similar it might be better if you did it outside, get a fader between the pre and the converter etc...
This particular technique was borrowed from my PT setups, it usually includes effects, EQ etc.... I like to record with the end result, not add it later, it helps the performance and for inside the box this is the way it works for me. Maybe it won't work in pmx but I find it improbable.
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Re: Mixer in Record path

Postby Jakob Händel » Tue Jan 28, 2003 10:28

Hi all,

there is a workaround which may blow up your mixer depending on the amount of tracks you're willing to record post fader - but it works.

Open an aux bus on the strip you want to record post fader and turn fully up the send knob. Assign the aux bus to any internal bus. Open a new strip and assign to the same internal bus. Go to a new track and enable recording of the new internal bus.

When recording classical music with e.g. 24mics, I always record 24 tracks plus my hot mix (past all pans, faders and effects) through an internal bus on tracks 25+26. Later I'm editing this hot mix which usually remains the final mix. Multitrack is only for safety.

There is a delay - you'll hear a phasing noise when listening to the signals pre and post bus. But you can compensate it. For me this is a very comfortable solution.

Regards,
Jakob

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Postby Rubato » Wed Jan 29, 2003 03:25

Jakob Handel-

Nice to hear from you! Love your tunes, but I haven't heard much new from you for some hundreds of years.

Please drop me a line if you have some fresh stuff I might dig. Me, I'm getting heavily into MIDI.

sincerely

Ludwig Van Beethoven

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Postby Bernhard Guettler » Wed Jan 29, 2003 16:04

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Hey Ludwig, old house !
What's up, how are your ears doing eventually.
There is no Jakob here yet, but Georg Friedrich is doing fine.
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Postby Rubato » Fri Jan 31, 2003 01:54

Dear Johann-

Well, son! It's always nice to hear from one of my younger buddies.

I've been holding on to a huge pile of your old manuscripts-- the half nobody has ever had access to down on Earth! Seems they are just playing that Mass in B minor repeatedly... Shall I fedex this stuff to you-- or just drop it into the recycling?

Heinrich Schutz