Pyramix 8 - What do You Need More?

[guyrowlanduk]

But you won't have clip based in PT10 either.

Highlight clip, select effect, render. Job done.

[Paulo M]

Highlight clip, select effect, render. Job done.

Ah, but that's not clip based processing, it's just simple rendering. You have limited Undo for that, so recovering the unprocessed clip can be not that easy at a later stage. Also is one plugin at a time(as far as I know).

In clip based processing, you can assign a plugin chain to a clip or selection.

Although I have to admit that in Pyramix, we should be able to load a single plugin when using Render, instead of having to use the Render rack in the cases when a simple plugin processing is needed. As you can do in PT, Nuendo etc.

Meaning that you select the clip, click on Render and choose a plugin from the installed plugins to process the selection.

Or be able to use Render using the plugins assigned to the specific strip. Similar to Mixdown, but without involving buss summing.

[guyrowlanduk]

I agree, all those options would help. I'm not too fussed about the render thing - I usually copy and mute a clip before I render if I can't easily recover the original (which I usually can). The PT method is fast and works - something like that should be an essential by now.

[Graemme]

I've been trying to convince Merging that clip-based effects are essential since the NAB convention in 2005. I give up...maybe somebody with some current influence will have better luck...

Graemme

I agree, all those options would help. I'm not too fussed about the render thing - I usually copy and mute a clip before I render if I can't easily recover the original (which I usually can). The PT method is fast and works - something like that should be an essential by now.

[allemano bernard@neuf.fr]

Hi,

It has long been that many of us hoped the based object effects, (like samplitude etc. ...) it will be essential to the future ... but it seems not a priority...

bests,

Bernardo

[Jose Raposo]

Hello all,
In DAR Storm had already based eq clip and clip based dynamics. I am talking about the late 90s and early 2000s. Render clips, but have the certainty that nothing happens to the original is hard work for those who usually runs behind time as we do in post production.

Best Regards,

[STA]

Sidechaining would be really really useful for me!

[Paulo M]

Sidechaining would be really really useful for me!

Indeed, I couldn´t agree more! It´s a useful creative tool, that is trully missing from Pyramix.

[DJS]

When's it out?

[Graemme]

Not even in beta yet...

When's it out?

[per]

Practical things!

I'm often bringing my system to different recording sites - churches, concert halls or other studios. I'm usually NOT bringing my control surface (Tango) and sometimes only one screen. This weekend I had a fairly large recording with 24 channels of input in the first round and a number of dubs to that, ending up with something like 40 channels.
In order to organize my inputs I used VCA groups and found myself looking for the button where I could collapse the strips belonging to a certain group. This would have been extremely helpful in this situation (with only one screen and a huge mixer). Collapsing individual strips by clicking with the mouse on each strip was not an option. At the right end of the mixer there is the possibility to collapse ALL strips - but then you need to expand the strips you need. So on my wish list is the possibility to collapse all strips belonging to a certain vca group.

We did a number of dubs (is that what you call it, you english speaking guys?), meaning I had to send different mixes to different musicians using aux send buses. Making a useful mix of some 40 channels turning the small knobs in the send panels with the mouse is not a pleasant job. So what I did was this: Set all sends to post with 0 dB gain (where's the menu for setting all gain to 0 dB?). While monitoring the aux send I make a mix using the faders, set all send to pre and copy faders to send gains. After doing this for all musicians (well, not all...) I had to make a new mix for my own monitoring.

This works fine - until I need to change to monitoring for someone. There's no way to copy the send gains back to the faders and no way to store different fader settings (or is there? Libraries?). It would would have been great to be able to switch fader views (like on some mixing consoles) so that I could choose to let my faders show the gain for, say, monitor 2, do my adjustments and the switch back to the mixing console. So this is also on my wish list.

My last thing this time is just perfume: When you have a large mixer it takes time to find the strip you're looking for, because they all look the same (or is it me that's getting old and slow...?). I would like to be able to insert "dummy strips" (partitioners, separators) with a color of my choice, to visually separate the strips into groups. I think it would be easier to get an overview of a large mixer this way.

This topic has become some wish list by now! I hope the Merging guys read it
Cheers
Per

[Perfect Record]

I've been trying to convince Merging that clip-based effects are essential since the NAB convention in 2005. I give up...maybe somebody with some current influence will have better luck...

Graemme

And someone with more influence than you would be whom??????

[Perfect Record]

Following on Per's request above-

Maybe simple strip coloring ala Pro Tools would work. And, yes I use that extensively when I'm in PT.

There are times when I want a simple hardware controller to replace a mouse when setting a knob or fader. Either the Contour controller or the Griffin Powermate would be fine. Let me click on a control, then twiddle a hardware knob would be great.

[Paulo M]

Maybe simple strip coloring ala Pro Tools would work. And, yes I use that extensively when I'm in PT.

There are times when I want a simple hardware controller to replace a mouse when setting a knob or fader. Either the Contour controller or the Griffin Powermate would be fine. Let me click on a control, then twiddle a hardware knob would be great.

You can do strip coloring in the Tracks tab as well, although I agree that having access to the color pallet from the main mixer window as in PT is also an option that could be implemented in Pyramix.

Regarding the controllers, you´ll find that most simple generic controllers won´t give you the degree of control you need. Unless you´re not ready to spend some money, you´re going to keep using the mouse more and more

Third party hardware controllers (the cheap ones) always have their flaws. They make drivers for software that sells most and is more popular. Pyramix is not on that league yet. That´s why I´m in favour of Merging developing it´s own app for iOS and Android and even a simple hardware controller that can replace Isis.

[klaukholm]

Third party hardware controllers (the cheap ones) always have their flaws. They make drivers for software that sells most and is more popular. Pyramix is not on that league yet. That´s why I´m in favour of Merging developing it´s own app for iOS and Android and even a simple hardware controller that can replace Isis.

The inexpensive Tango works great, I have been finding it a bit heavy and bulky for the road though.