Flux plugins VS3

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Flux plugins VS3

Postby Paulo M » Fri May 21, 2010 14:21

Hi,

is anybody here using the Flux plugins in VS3 versions?

As far as I´m aware the versions 2 of some of their plugins like Solera II, Epure II etc. are not available for VS3, only Solera 1 etc.

Some of their other plugins don´t even have VS3 versions. Are people here using the Flux VST versions of it instead? I would like to take advantage of Masscore for certain plugins that are available in VS3 but apparently the choice is narrow. Thanks
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Re: Flux plugins VS3

Postby Graemme » Fri May 21, 2010 15:35

Hi Paulo,

The VS3 versions of the Flux plug-ins are certainly very good, just not the latest versions that exist in the VST universe. I think that you can get a demo key to try them out. In particular, I'd look at Solera and also Merging's EQ-X.

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Re: Flux plugins VS3

Postby Paulo M » Sat May 22, 2010 00:40

Hi Graemme,

thanks for your opinion. I´ll look into this. I want to be able to run several instances of compression and eq for music mixing, in particular at DXD level, hence the desire to use VS3, to take advantage of Masscore. Looking into reverbs too, I´m looking to Altiverb, although here in VST.
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Re: Flux plugins VS3

Postby Jonathon Stevens » Mon May 24, 2010 16:58

I have both VST and VS3 versions of Solera, and as Graemme noted the VST version is more current. With the VST software versions you have easy access to newer versions as bug fixes and improvements are made. I haven't paid much attention but you probably have lower latency times with the VS3 versions.

I use the VS3 version of Solera regularly, and I don't feel there are any crucial features missing that are in Solera2 VST. Just my opinion.
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Re: Flux plugins VS3

Postby tim » Mon May 24, 2010 23:33

Using VS3 Solera & EQ-X all the time....love 'em.

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Re: Flux plugins VS3

Postby Bernhard Guettler » Tue May 25, 2010 09:57

What's the difference between EQ-X, StripTools EQ and Parametric EQ except user interface/ergonomics?
I think they are sound wise the same, also their impulse responses are identical and AFAIK were programmed all by the same developer...

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Re: Flux plugins VS3

Postby Graemme » Tue May 25, 2010 12:16

EQ-x is a 'state space' topology and the other two are not. The GUIs for Strip Tools / Bus Tools / EQ-x were done by Gael Martinet, but the DSP for EQ-x was done by Marcus Erne.

To my ears, EQ-x sounds cleaner and has less of a sonic 'imprint' than the others.

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Bernhard Guettler wrote:What's the difference between EQ-X, StripTools EQ and Parametric EQ except user interface/ergonomics?
I think they are sound wise the same, also their impulse responses are identical and AFAIK were programmed all by the same developer...

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Re: Flux plugins VS3

Postby Thomas Grubb » Tue May 25, 2010 15:28

How do you find EQ-X compared to the Algorithmix offerings Graemme?

I don't know if it's my imagination, but I feel EQ-X adds a certain "tightness" to the sound whereas the Algorithmix eqs (Orange ins particular) seem more relaxed and open. It'd be interesting to know if you have an opinion.

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Re: Flux plugins VS3

Postby Graemme » Wed May 26, 2010 03:43

Hi Tom,

That's an interesting way to describe the difference and I think I agree with you that the EQ-x is 'tighter', if only because the Algo orange EQ sounds more 'relaxed' (than just about anything). I'm using the 'Orange' for a HPF on a classical DSD project and it's remarkable how 'invisible' it is. However, it isn't exactly invisible to the DSP meter (It's a pig), so if I need more than six channels-worth, I'll often use the EQ-x on input channels and the 'Orange' on the output bus.

The Algorithmix 'Blue' (not linear-phase) also sounds great and I use it a lot for slight trims, etc. I'm still using the Weiss and Millennia/Forssell Eq's for most things...I like twisting dials more than I like using a mouse, I guess.

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Re: Flux plugins VS3

Postby Thomas Grubb » Wed May 26, 2010 12:44

Hi Graemme,

I use the EQs in much the same way, mainly due to the cpu/latency hit of Orange. I also find it incredibly transparent and well worth the slight inconvenience, especially for classical music. Haven't used Red that much, but Blue is great for more pop-orientated productions, and it's fun playing with the various models. Dreaming of getting some dials one day...

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Re: Flux plugins VS3

Postby Graemme » Thu May 27, 2010 08:51

Hi Tom,

The continuous-slope filters on the Algo Red are pretty cool (pop music).

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Re: Flux plugins VS3

Postby Thomas Grubb » Thu May 27, 2010 15:16

Good to know Graemme! I'll try using Red next time something with electric guitars or drums come along! :-)

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