K-Lite codec pack

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Paulo M
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K-Lite codec pack

Postby Paulo M » Sat May 10, 2008 18:03

Hi Laurent,

just a small advice from you. Do you know of any conflicts with Pyramix/DS regarding the installation of the K-lite codec pack? Or do you have other codec pack that you can recommend? Thanks,

Paulo

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Postby phaseboy » Sat May 10, 2008 19:40

K-Lite works fine with pyramix/ds etc...

However I can tell you that with that pack you're pretty much guaranteed to have horrible looking picture - not just in the DS Player, but in any player you use.

I installed this pack on my pmx rig. I would render avi's from quicktimes that clients sent me using my v-cube. They looked awful no matter how I did them on the pmx rig. However in v-cube and wmp etc.. on the v-cube machine they looked fine. Dumped this codec pack from my pyramix rig and just went back to what is installed with windows and all my files looked so much better.

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Postby Paulo M » Sun May 11, 2008 12:41

Hi Mark, thanks for your opinion. I´m just trying to find some codecs that will allow my WMP tp play DVD files so that if clients bring their picture in DVD format I can play it from WMP, connect my Matrox Parhelia composite out to a Cannopus and digitise into DS via firewire. At the moment I still do not have Vcube, so I have to find some workarounds. I just found that myWMP does not read DVD disks, so I´m trying to find some codec pack that allows me to do that. As DS uses them, I thought it could be useful. Let me know what you think. Regards,

Paulo M

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Postby Laurent Sevestre » Mon May 12, 2008 10:12

Fies from DVD are definitely not a good idea for audio post production.
The used codec is a MPEG2 with GOP (group of picture) that is realy not adapted to search for a particular picture especially in reverse playback mode. CPU occupation, and disk access can rise very high in this situation while producing a jerky playback.

All codec aren't equal regarding audio post. Intra frame compression must be prefered (MJPEG, DV, uncompressed...). The codec issued of the MPEG family (usually GOP) must be avoid because of the drawback evoked above.

Please see this thread:
http://www.merging.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3151&highlight=gop

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Postby Lucas Fender » Wed May 14, 2008 06:36

I'm not 100 sure what you're asking, but I'll give it a shot:

Could you just use an old DVD player with composite out?

As far as players/codecs are concerned, try VLC player. It's the best there is!
http://www.videolan.org

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Postby Paulo M » Thu May 15, 2008 13:14

Hi all and thanks for the suggestions. Indeed, in the past, if a client was bringing the video in DVD format, I would play it from a conventional DVD player, get the composite out into a Cannopus or other device that can convert composite into firewire and digitise the picture using the capture functions on DS.That was fine for work. On some other times if the picture was in a format that DS had trouble playing it, due to the problems that Laurent mentioned, I would then play it trough WMP or any other software player that can overlay the picture to the composite out of my Parhelia and digitise it as mentioned above. The problem is that recently somebody brought the picture in DVD format and WMP couldn´t play it due to a lack of a codec, hence my question about a pack of codecs that I can install on windows, so that that problem might be solved. Of course that as soon as I have the cash to order a Vcube SE, my problems will be solved, but until then I have to find some workarounds to copoe with any situation that may arise. Once again, thank you all for your time.Regards,

Paulo

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Postby Zorro » Sat May 17, 2008 18:00

Am I correct in assuming that what you have is DVD format files but not on a DVD? If this is the case then the quickest workaround might be to burn a DVD from these and then revert to your old method of capturing via a Canopus converter or similar.

Alternatively you could use some software to convert the VOB (multiplexed MPEG) files to an intra-frame format e.g. DV or MJPEG or whatever. One that springs to mind is Canopus ProCoder, but you might have to demux the VOBs first using a bit of freeware. I've been doing a lot of this lately and, although it's a bit of a faff, it does work.
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