Offline Loudness Meter?

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Offline Loudness Meter?

Postby fl » Tue Jul 14, 2015 16:32

I've been working with real-time Loudness meters for a while now, and have found that it would be very convenient if there were some faster-than-real-time method to check a mix, rather than sitting through the whole thing over and over again while doing fine adjustments - especially when dealing with classical movements of ten to thirty minutes duration.

The program found at https://github.com/audionuma/r128x purports to be just such a tool, but all the downloads appear to be full of uncompiled code files, rather than any kind of normal executable that I can recognize.

Of course there are solutions from TC Electronics, Nugen and Flux, but they are all pretty expensive (the Jünger is over $800 for a two channel version), and seem to be targeted at large scale production facilities with their large scale budgets. I'm hoping that there is a lower priced alternative - anyone know of one?
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Re: Offline Loudness Meter?

Postby Lauran » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:26

Have you tried doing a Mixdown with the Loudness and Peak Limiting optons enabled?
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Re: Offline Loudness Meter?

Postby fl » Wed Jul 22, 2015 14:47

Thanks for responding, but Final Check is a paid add-on, which I do not own. During the period when Merging was giving it away (by accident, as it turned out) with either the last release of version 8 or the first of version 9 (I can't remember which) i found this mixdown method useful, but it goes ahead and does it, when I just want it to tell me about it. When I'm in the tweaking phase, I like to have more involvement in the process.

What I am looking for is a reliable method of getting the Loudness value, without having to play through my mixes over and over. A faster-than-realtime scan of a mix is what really interests me.
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Re: Offline Loudness Meter?

Postby Paulo M » Thu Sep 17, 2015 14:07

Hi Frank,

you may find my answer a bit weird, but taking into consideration you don´t want to spend much money and basically want to analyse files and eventually correct them offline, there´s a module in Reaper that does what you want with log files included. The disadvantage is that you need to open the programme to do that and import your files into the timeline for analysis and correction. But if you consider that for 60us dollars you get not only an offline loudness tool plus a full featured DAW, maybe it´s worth trying. The programme also features extensive render files capabilities for digital distribution, so even if you don´t use it for editing, you´ll find aditional tools in it as well.
Please check the link for some info on this part of Reaper:

http://wiki.cockos.com/wiki/index.php/M ... s_with_SWS

My appologies for our Merging friends for suggesting another DAW here for the job in question, but eventually I found a lot of similarities between Reaper and Pyramix lately :D
I didn´t find out who is copying who, but considering the price diferences between the two products, I don´t really mind. I guess that good ideas are always welcome.
Best regards,

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Re: Offline Loudness Meter?

Postby Julian Gough » Mon Sep 28, 2015 09:36

Paulo M wrote:
My appologies for our Merging friends for suggesting another DAW here for the job in question, but eventually I found a lot of similarities between Reaper and Pyramix lately :D
I didn´t find out who is copying who, but considering the price diferences between the two products, I don´t really mind. I guess that good ideas are always welcome.


Don't apologise, I've found Reaper to be a very capable DAW. I wanted to have a portable recording system to carry to venues, I tried PMX Native on a laptop with my Horus but had no end of trouble. Reaper with an RME interface just does it without argument, and reads LTC timecode on any audio I/P.

Thanks for the heads up about the offline loudness tool, I'm going to investigate that.

Cheers,

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Re: Offline Loudness Meter?

Postby fl » Wed Jun 07, 2017 14:39

It's been a while since this topic has been active, but in the meantime, I found a free meter which does exactly what I wanted, from the good folks at Orban.

http://www.orban.com/orban/meter/
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