ljudatervinning wrote:Thank you again Frank. It works great for my purpose so far!!
Good to hear.
After editing is done, can I just set the Overdub "Destination" group to "Free" and remove/delete the "Source" group?
You could, or you could simply Hide it (in the Track Groups Tab). I'd still recommend that you Create a New Playlist with nothing in it, just to insure that no interference from your Source Group leaks through to your mix, yet if you find you have to go back and do further editing, you have everything there waiting for you.
Will the original playlist be gone if I remove the Source group?
Yes it will, which is why I'm suggesting you Hide it rather than deleting it. I'm all for "just in case"...
An alternative could be to set the "Source" track group to Free, mute and hide?
I wouldn't worry so much about Free or remaining as Source, but Mute is a good idea, but can accidentally become Unmuted (in rare circumstances), which is why I'm suggesting the creation of a new, empty Playlist. Hiding is okay, and allows you to retain all your organizing work, just in case you need it, yet keeps it safely out of the way.
Later I want to do Source Destination Editing with the "orchestra + percussion" tracks as one source.
It's tricky to do this and keep the Orchestral Tracks' Playlists intact, but it can be done if you take some precautions. Before you do anything, make sure to save a backup copy of your Project file, just in case things go awry. Then create an empty Playlist on the Orchestral Tracks. With the Percussion Destination Tracks, create a Copy Playlist containing your Edited Assembly. Then make a Copy Playlist, which will also contain your edited assembly. Highlight all the segments of the edit - all of them, and then Render them into a single multi-track audio file, which will replace the edited segments on the Tracks, and also be stored as a single, easily retrievable file in your Media Manager. Save the Project, and save a Backup.
Now, go to the Track Groups Tab, and re-assign all the tracks in the Percussion Destination group, to the original Orchestral Tracks Source Group. Since originally, you did not make Playlists for the Orchestral Takes, you'll have to do this manually, Placing all the Clips from the first orchestral Take on the Orchestra Tracks, and the edited and Rendered Percussion edit on the Percussion Tracks. Then, "Create a Copy Playlist for all Tracks in Group/Strip", and give it a name like "Combined Orch. and Perc. 001". Next, "Create a New Empty Playlist..." and load in the second Orchestral Take, and the rendered Percussion edit, create a Copy Playlist of THIS, and name it "Combined Orch. and Perc. 002" and so on, until all your Orchestral Takes are assigned to individual Playlists, along with the edited Percussion. Finally, go to the Track Groups Tab, select the new combined Orchestral and Percussion Source Group, and Copy it - BELOW all the others, and make the result a Destination Group. While you're there, you may as well switch any other remaining Destination Groups to Free, just to make the S-D editing go a little easier. Then Save as a new Project (just to be on the safe side) and edit to your heart's content.
Of course, you may decide that all of this is just too much work for too little gain, and prefer to keep your edited Percussion Tracks in their own Track Group, and just edit the Orchestra on its own, referenced to the edited Percussion. Since you didn't record the orchestra using Playlists, you'll still have to set that up (your choice, you may decide to just S-D from your existing one-take-after-another orchestra tracks, to a newly created Orchestra Destination Track Group, synced to the edited Percussion Destination Group.
A final word about Playlists: Pyramix automatically updates the state of any Playlist to be the condition it is in when you leave it for another Playlist (of course you can undo this by simply quitting the whole Project without Saving and then re-loading it, but there are times when this is too radical an option). It's very easy to make a small adjustment, say to shift a Clip some small amount, and then to switch to another Playlist without realizing that you've now incorporated the change to the first Playlist. Usually, by the time you discover what's happened, it's far too late to be Undone by a simple Undo command - as you'll have done too much work in the interim that you don't want to lose.
In some cases, it's a very good idea to make a Copy Playlist before you change anything, so that you can still safely revert to the state of things from earlier, but the issue is that you have to do this early, before you are likely to do anything to change the layout of Clips on the Timeline. If you're like me, you'll forget to do this, which around here inspires an outpouring of tainted verbiage, and having to quit the Project without Saving, to re-load and start over.
There's another issue - it's very easy to lose track of which Playlist you have active in the Timeline. I've been asking Merging for a while for them to incorporate some feature which will identify which Playlist is currently active - say, by highlighting the current Playlist in the Playlist Button > Load Playlist pop-up listing. As things are, you just have to know, and most of the time, it's easy enough to tell by looking at the Clips, or by changing to another Playlist and then changing back to the one you suspect was most likely the one you were looking at.
It gets especially confusing when you've made Copy Playlists with the same material in them.
The point of all this is to realize that Playlists will change themselves with the slightest touch. Yes, you can always UNDO, but sometimes you only discover that you made a change to a Playlist a while back, and you don't want to lose the work you've done subsequently - or maybe going back would exceed the number of available UNDOs. Just remember that if you think you'd like to make any kinds of change to the disposition of Clips on the Timeline - MAKE A COPY PLAYLIST FIRST
. In fact, make the Copy Playlist before you do anything, and then immediately go back to the original Playlist. If nothing bad happens, then great, but the worst happens, at least you have a way back.