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Do you need an ADR toolkit for take comping?

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:11
by just.sounds
Do you need an ADR toolkit for take comping?

I saw the video on youtube about the ADR toolkit and the combination of source tracks and a compilation track looks very timesaving for me. Could you make a compilation track with multiple takes without the ADR kit?

Cheers

Re: Do you need an ADR toolkit for take comping?

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 18:28
by fl
Could you describe a little more precisely what you mean by "take comping"?

Also, a little more information about what you wish to accomplish would be helpful.

A link to the video you mentioned wouldn't hurt...

Re: Do you need an ADR toolkit for take comping?

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:18
by just.sounds
I would like to record a few takes of seperate tracks and on the same place in the timeline. And i want to hear only one take at a time. It would be helpful if i could make cuts through all the tracks and solo and mute automation would automatically follow the bits i select.

Re: Do you need an ADR toolkit for take comping?

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 15:48
by fl
I couldn't find the online video you mentioned in your first post, so I'm still a little unclear as to what you want to do.

That said, I think there are a couple of ways...

You could make a series of recordings to a single Track or to several Tracks grouped in a Track Group (make this a "Source" group in the Track Groups Tab). Take a look at the section named 'Loop Recording With Simultaneous Playlist Creation" on page 514 of the manual. From the sounds of things, you don't need to worry about all the syncing with external machines, and chasing timecode, mentioned in the manual - just set things up to loop record onto the same tracks, into separate Playlists. Enabling the "Cursor Auto-Return" in the View menu makes this easy, as each time you hit Stop, your cursor will snap to the original start location automatically, ready for the next recording. This location does not even need to be the same place as where the "In" Marker is placed, so that you can give your performer(s) some pre-roll before Pyramix goes into Record. Going this route means that you don't have to predict in advance exactly how many Takes will be required - just keep making new recordings until you're satisfied.

The manual section mentioned above shows you how to set up recording to the same tracks over and over again, and having access to each Take individually by selecting each one's Playlist. Sections of these Playlisted Clips can be edited together in a second Track Group (the "Destination") through the normal Source-Destination Editing process.

Another, very different method would be to create several Track Groups each containing the number of Tracks required - one Group for each Take, and switching the Record Ready status from Group to Group while recording - having all Takes displayed simultaneously would make it possible to Automate Mutes and crossfades between them.

Which method you choose is going to be determined by whether you wish to make edits, or perform the transitions as Automated Mixer operations. While it requires the creation of a second "Destination" Track Group (which nevertheless can have its signal flow routed to the same Mixer Strips as the "Source" Track Group), I believe that the Editing method will give you what you're after more easily than doing the transitions from Take to Take on separate Tracks/Track Groups via Mixer Automation. For one thing, you don't have to fill up your screen with many Tracks and Track Groups, one each for each Take. Also, the transitions that you can do via Editing are likely to be much more controlled (and therefore seamless) than what you can do through Mixer Automation.

Re: Do you need an ADR toolkit for take comping?

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 12:10
by just.sounds
Exactly this :D

https://youtu.be/0X85jb84nWw?t=3m47s
The "consolidate" track is what i need!

Re: Do you need an ADR toolkit for take comping?

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 14:00
by fl
Then I guess you need to buy the ADR Toolkit as an "a la carte" add-on for your Pyramix license. Speak to your distributor for pricing, etc.